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The iDJ Pro plays very nicely with DJay 2 (the iPad version, not the Mac only version = DJay PRO).
Using spotify for anything other than personal use is not allowed, nor is using music downloaded from Spotify. So it’s time to start buying those tracks you feel you really must have.
If you are just playing in your own bedroom, then using Spotify would be ok. You wouldn’t even have to save tracks, you can play them right from spotify in DJay 2.
If you haven’t bought it yet, I’d recommend a WeGO3 instead so you aren’t stuck with that dedicated slot size. An iOS controller like that, or better yet the Reloop Beatpad, would actually see you from the bedroom all the way to a club and serve you on both iOS devices and laptops. You grab one of those and a Spotify pro membership and you can pretty much dj like everyone else. Are you any good?
Teamviewer sign in mac by someone else. After all, as loyal Apple users, we practically insist our loved ones also buy Macs, effectively turning us into unpaid Geniuses at the first sign of trouble.This may not be a problem if the afflicted Mac was in the next room, down the street, or even across town, but what happens when it’s located too far away to drive over and offer assistance in person?
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The one thing I dislike about ALL iDevice/tablet controller except the iDJ Pro, is the way the tablet sits in/on the controller.
Firstly, because it is only held at the bottom edge, if you touch the tablet it moves some. Whereas in the iDJ Pro it’s rock solid and an integral part of the controller. So very clear when you touch it, it’s not moving. I have tried various controllers with iPads the way they are on the WeGo, BeatPad and such and they all have that. It is understandable that they do it, but I find it annoying nonetheless.
Secondly, by the same token of only minimal contact at the bottom of your tablet, it’s only a matter of time before someone (most likely a slightly drunk customer) comes over to ask for a request and will either knock the iPad out of it’s “craddle” (best case), disrupting your performance and hopefully not breaking the cable or -worse- the connector, or worst case break something (like the tablet screen).
Not a problem if you are inside a booth, but a serious possibility if -like me- your DJ booth is often set up on the edge of the dance floor at the same level as the people dancing.Call me paranoia, but I had too many run-ins with Murphy not to be.
If gear is club-ready depends on the one using it. If you would ask me if I’d qualify the WeGo as club-ready I’d probably say no. But that would also go for our top-4 beginner controllers, albeit slightly less so.
If you want to get serious enough to play out regularly at paid gigs, then you are getting in MC6000, DDJ-SX, Reloop Terminal Mix 8 territory. Again, just my view.Finally, while Spotify is nice for practicing at home, it is NOT – and we can’t stress this enough – ALLOWED to use it while playing out in any shape or fashion. Pro membership or not doesn’t matter.
Nearly every nightclub I’ve walked into in the last several years here in Ohio keep the dj separated from the crowd in a booth, often elevated. I wouldn’t want to buy a dedicated and expensive controller when apple is so quick to change the shape of their iOS devices. Look at how the iPhone has changed drastically with each release. On the iPad side, the current iPad mini 3 is a monster that is way less expensive than the full-size iPad. With the smaller controllers, like the WeGO, you can use an iPhone 5 or 6 and skip the iPad altogether. I’ve done it. Djay is a basic program compared to VDJ Serato and Traktor and works the same on my iPad mini and my MBP. People should understand that most of America is a small market with small market clubs in every city and town once you leave Chicago, LA, Las Vegas, Miami and NYC. It doesn’t matter what you dj with as long as it sounds good and keeps people happy, unless you want to impress other djs. I know we all wish every gig was a Boiler Room-style event with the dj out front and adoring dancers all around but they aren’t. I’ve actually downsized my controller choice for most gigs from a pro Denon controller in a flight case all the way down to a WeGO and nobody noticed. I even did a gig last weekend with a Mixtrack Edge just to see if I could pull it off. I missed the touch sensitive jogs but other than that I had everything I needed to precue and drop on the 1.
Talkin’ about Djay… Doesn’t happen to you that you have to really adjust your mix manually? My experience: 80 percent of times you get a decent “sync” mix. The rest of the times you have to adjust the pitch yourself… yes, the old way
Well yes, but if you have controller, that is no problem of course, jogs are jogs, whether they operate DJay or Serato of course. Or am I missing the point here? 😀
That’s why sync is wack. Don’t use it and remap the button to do something more useful, like a vinyl, brake instead.
Very proud to be a turntablist and an old way beat matcher etc… but wasn’t sync supposed to do the beatmatch perfectly “every” time? If it doesn’t do job and it actually worsen your own mixing… what is digital deejaying for…? I thought the idea was to let software do the beat match so you can spend time in more creative things. Maybe we have to go back to vinyl again…? That would be ok for me
It gets it right most of the time. It’s what preparation is for, to weed out the bad ones. And even then, some are just not beatgriddable or you mix your DJ software tracks with something on a CDJ or you have to take-over from another DJ on another controller … or … well, you get the idea. There are loads of advantages to digital, but 100% sync is not one of them (it can be if you only play only EDM for example, software will get it right most of the time, like 95% or more). And there are people that use lots and lots of digital DJ-ing features and still beat match everything “by hand”.
So, no the idea is not to do the software do your beat match all of the time, not for most styles of music or DJ-ing anyway.
By the same token, the S8 doesn’t even have jogs anymore. Pretty much clear that they do believe that this is the(ir) future of DJ-ing.
thanks Vintage, for taking the time!
This leads to another question: How do you manage the S8 with no jogs? What is the S8 feature that makes the job of the jogs?
Thanks again!
It’s what they have the touch strips for, you can use them to nudge the track forward/backward. And while I am sure this is something you can practice til you get it down (and if you grew up without jog wheels you’ll learn without prejudice because you don’t know the “old” way), I am also sure that all us old jog wheel hands will find it as unpractical as + and – nudge buttons.
To answer your question, the touch strip replaces the nudge buttons which replace the jogs. 😀
Well, imho it’s pretty hard to learn on DJay if you have nothing to control it with (i.e. just the touchscreen of your tablet). Especially manual beat matching is a bit of a chore (it can be done, but I would go bonkers if I needed to do that all night long), but also the lack of physical controls. So while you can learn how to DJ with it (the most important skill being knowing what comes next), it won’t help much learning the technical skills involved.
I don’t know what you mean by lots of playlist with Spotify, but at the end of the day, DJ-ing hardly ever involves playing prepped playlists. You CAN use mini-playlists of, say, 3-4 tracks that go really well together in some genre with transitions you have practiced as this buys you some time by not having to think of what track comes next with EVERY track but rather having these building blocks for your gig. DJ-ing is a “living” art form. There is a room dynamic brought on between the interaction of DJ, crowd and music. And as such can not be predicted. So if you make a playlist in advance, chances are close to 100% that you’ll find yourself facing the situation of having a prepared playlist and a crowd that isn’t reacting to it well.
Starting to think in terms of tracks vs playlists is a good thing. You are not a jukebox, nor are you Spotify. A DJ is not expected to play his/her playlist, but to read the crowd and adjust the music selection to where it helps the crowd move in the direction you, the DJ, want them to move.
Finally, as stated before, it is NOT allowed to play out in public with Spotify tracks, period. Clearly the risks aren’t too big if you decide to do it anyway at a backyard party, but still.
Whatever road you decide to take, it should include the building of a proper collection. I.e. scouting the music you feel you must have, buying it, prepping it properly, maintaining it in your collection (like genre, mini-playlists, etc.) and taking it from there. If you play a 4-hour party, where you can play about 80 tracks and adhering to the rule of thumb to have twice the amount of music needed for a gig to allow for maneuvering space, then you need 160 tracks to get you going.
Let’s say an average of 1,5 bucks per track (you can do cheaper depending on the source and/or by using DJ pools), puts this at an expense of 240 bucks total, with the absolute guarantee that you will only buy the tracks you really, really, really feel you MUST have for your collection. When you pay for your tracks per track, it’s the direct end of collecting as much music as possible, like you would/do with Spotify. You WILL end up with a compact collection which tracks you all know intimately, from lyrics to drops, from breaks to intro/outro allowing for the creative engine in your mind as Phil calls it to do it’s job effortlessly.
Knowing what comes next becomes easier if you have less to choose from, but everything you can choose from is of the highest and playable quality.Phil’s latest video on the subject is a must-see, if you haven’t alrready: http://www.digitaldjtips.com/2015/06/masterclass-2-the-two-secrets-to-djing-like-a-pro/
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